I fear that if Tibet independence progresses further, it will be the same pre-"Chinese Communism", "torture and violent destruction".
If by peaceful you meant the caste system - essentially the oppression of Tibetians by the lamas, that Tibet was under before the Chinese Communist party liberated them from the lama's iron fist of power, you really have to understand that the media that you have been fed doesn't tell you everything.
Not to mention that the current Dalai Lama's backed by the US because the US politicians are just finding ways to bash China like a dead horse.
I admire your compassion toward to the highland and the peaceful folks of Tibet. However, if you really wish to help them, I think fully understand the history and your enemy (not `China`, instead Chinese Communist who destroyed all Chinese cultures). [link]
Before I sign off, I gonna pull you off from your high horse of "British education on world history" by reminding you British foreign policy has its share of guilt on Tibet's suffering. Remember "Yalta Conference" which gave the Soviet the green light to give whatever support they want to the Chinese Commies.
Furthermore, you are empowering the Chinese Communist by referring them as "China". As long as you treat the Communist as the "representative of China", you are guilty of giving Commies the recognition they need to destroy Tibet as they did with all the religious and ethnic groups before..
Hmm, so what would you have me call the country that was erstwhile known as China? I called the USSR simply Russia, as did most of the world, out of simplicity. I see China as no different to how Russia was when it was the USSR, it's a recognised government worldwide whether we like it or not.
I know Britain has done it's fair share of international meddling, but then most countries in Europe did and still do around the world. Let's not forget that if it wasn't for the British Empire and it's allies we would probably all be speaking German now.
I still say that the world has become a much more dangerous place since Britain and other major European countries relinquished their colonial powers after WWII. Colonialism is not always a bad thing, I just disagree with the way China has handled it.
Just add "Communist" whenever you want to mention the China of "Red flag with 5 stars". That's only 9 letters and I am pretty sure its not difficult for a Brit to type 9 more letters in his first language. Despite my inability to construct sentences like a pro (I am not a University grad), I am still willing to not slack off on important details. You give me the impression of someone who likes to make verdict without reaching deeper understanding of the issue.
From your tone, you are one of these people who thinks any regime other than US and UK can soley represent their nation of origin, despite the fact the regimes gained power with illegal or immoral means. You should repeat what you said to Russians and Chinese who suffered in the hand of the Communist regimes.
The Republic of China fought the WW2 for 6 years without any major help (the Flying Tigers could only do so much against the massive fleet of Japanese Air force with their limited number and resource). The first major Allies victory was Battle of Changsha (1942), the Republic of China did it with Type 24 rifle (Kar98k's forerunner), pak 36 and other weapons which DID NOT INCLUDE British arsenal.
Which China do you refer to in your last sentence "Colonialism is not always a bad thing, I just disagree with the way China has handled it.". Is it The Republic of China (Red White Blue) or the People's Republic of China (Commie Bastards). I eagerly await your answer.
I refer to Communist China that invaded Tibet when the rest of the world was too busy fighting among themselves.
I know little of the fight between China and Japan, other than it was almost a completely separate war to the one in Europe, mainly against Japanese aggressors. There was a lot happening over in the East around the time of the Russian communist revolution, I did not study 20th century history so it's only what I read since school and saw in TV documentaries.
In one documentary it said that Tibet could easily have conquered China a few years before, but their weapons were hopelessly outdated by the time Communist China rolled in.
Given the quote "I did not study 20th century history so it's only what I read since school and saw in TV documentaries." I am dead on that you are one of these arrogant White people who know so little about what happened in Asia (and let along China) yet so eager to be the "expert".
I don't expect me to reply anything I said earlier including "Let's not forget that if it wasn't for the British Empire and it's allies we would probably all be speaking German now." Which probably meant "Japanese" in my case. Yes, the Battle of Changsha 1941-1942.
You gotta be kidding me about the final paragraph! Do you know what was the Tibetan population before the implement of "The Great Leap" in Tibet and the 1959 uprising. Do you honestly think the Tibetans could launch an attack against the People's Liberation Army who would use any nasty and dirty tactic (human wave attack would be one of these)?
At no time did I suppose or claim to be an expert, I just made a little stamp on dA.
I also don't think much of your tone here, you are condemning all white people (there's a racist notion for you - describing me by the colour of my skin) just because they don't know the intricacies of some local history.
As you've managed to turn this peaceful exchange into an argument I think it's time to stop.
thank you for your concern on tibet . it is true .chines capture our country and they torture and violent destruction of a people's peaceful way of life. during Olympic 2008 .many people were killed any 1000 of people are still missing..they torture till death . they didn't giving us right to religion . Tibet will be free soon . Tashi Deleg
yeah you are right but Main thing is that we should not forget main thing that we should also think more than commerce. Not only a commerce but also Peace, harmony and Humanity. These are the main thing we should focus and need more than Money. So, just try to carry on making Peace not money. Without peace money is nothing.
Awesome! I definitely support this. I have the sticker on my car; I only realized that the yellow border was supposed to be asymmetrical after I cut the uneven end off (it looked like a printing error). Whoops...
i cant say i have a very strong opinion either way on the conflict there, largely because i dont think the information coming out is particularly accurate (and might not be until things are over). the tibetans seem like nice people tho, so im more inclined to feel for them because they dont seem to have done anything to warrant such a response from the chinese. ill still refrain from making a formal decision on whether the chinese are being evil due to lack of reliable information tho. well, with that babble out of the way.. i like the stamp
There`s rumour that these monks who started the riot may very well be Communist agents in disguise. Have you ever wonder how the Communist regimes around the world gain power by flinging mud to their targets (say current running elected government)
yea thats very true. tibets been sorta left on the sidelines for a long time now tho, so maybe they just decided that enough is enough and people in the rest of the world should pay attention to whats going on.
And they were unlucky that the rest of the world was in the grip of the cold war and unwilling to divert resources to help them in the 1950's. Nothing much has changed now, except where the fighting is and who it's against.
yea. i do think its nice that theres a country that isnt interested in war, but that means theyre of little use to any other country so i doubt any government will intervene now either. what the tibetans really should do is tunnel down and then across to get at saudi arabias oil. then you can bet thered be help.
well im not saying itd be easy with the large amounts of igneous and metamorphic rocks in the mountains to the west, things like fault lines, etc, but if you finance me then yea ill get a boring machine and give it a go..
Hmm, they did kind of do it to themselves though by staying in the 8th century for so long. Apparently they once were powerful enough to conquer China, if they had kept up with the arms race then China might never have invaded.